"You reject the Historians in the laughable, deluded belief that you know more about it than they do."

Keith A of Hertford's take on Jim Carroll's view of historians.

It is a damned sight worse than that Keith - Christmas on one thread actually claimed to know more about what someone said at a minuted meeting held in 1921 than that person did themselves, even to the tune of stating that the signed minutes taken at the meeting were wrong.

He claims that Kitchener was forced to resign - WRONG

He claims that Conscientious Objectors were shipped off to France and executed - WRONG

He claims that armed British Military Police lined up behind troops about to go "over-the-top" with orders to shoot those who turned back - WRONG

His evidence to substantiate that these things happened centre around conversations that he's had with a few "old soldiers" whose word must be taken as gospel truth - right altogether everyone - "And the Band played believe it if you can" - Christmas ever heard of this old service expression "To shoot someone a line"?