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Thread #156062   Message #3679588
Posted By: Teribus
24-Nov-14 - 10:17 AM
Thread Name: Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2
Subject: RE: Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2
Musket - "So let's get this straight. Anybody who thinks WW1 was anything other than a successful campaign where everything went to plan, men were well led, no need for red tops patrolling behind the lines because everybody was on board, no need to execute your own soldiers, no need to hand out white feathers blah blah blah.

We are all ignorant."


Care to show me any evidence to support the idea that anybody on this thread has said or thought that:

1: WW1 was a totally successful campaign where everything went to plan?

2: WW1 was a successful campaign throughout where men were well led?

3: Anybody said that there were no red caps patrolling behind the lines?

4: Anybody said that no soldiers were executed?

5: Anybody said that no white feathers were handed out?

You will be pushed to find any evidence of that, but there again you have moved the goal posts a bit haven't you?

1: YOU have contended that WWI was a disaster from start to finish and that British generals in particular were incompetent idiots - That is demonstrably untrue and that is what you have been told and given proof of

2: By and large British and Commonwealth troops were generally well led during the course of the First World War and their casualty figures when compared to those of the other 1914 combatant nations supports that contention.

3: According to you red caps were lined up in the trenches behind British troops prior to any attack being mounted with orders to shoot anyone who did not advance or who turned back - That contention is a myth, it never happened, you were given the chance to provide proof of even one single instance of it happening - we are all still waiting - we will wait for a long time because it never happened, for anyone in the British Army to do that would be illegal.

4: Just over 306 members of the British and Commonwealth Armed Forces were executed during the War - out of an Army of some 5,300,000. Sorry Musket that amounts to 0.006% of the men under command - WOW moral and discipline must have shot to hell eh? Stafford Hospital in 3 years killed how many in their A&E department 1,200 wasn't it?

5: What had white feathers got to do with anything or anybody in charge of running the war in Great Britain? Answer: nothing.

Basically on practically everything to do with this discussion you are incredibly ill-informed and pig-ignorant.