The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #156088 Message #3681476
Posted By: Musket
01-Dec-14 - 11:59 AM
Thread Name: WWI, was No-Man's Land
Subject: RE: WWI, was No-Man's Land
Perhaps, as Greg said, once you read some of the books you refer to, you will see for yourself that it wasn't as men had been led to believe it was at the front, that the military tactics being drawn up late 1914 could never have delivered peace by Xmas anyway, that the reasons for fighting had not been adequately explained further than the Kitchener inspired propaganda and during the early influence of The Kaiser, there were diplomatic opportunities to avoid Western powers being dragged into the demise of the Austro Hungarian Empire. Opportunities that were not taken as the government had been assured that a military campaign would deliver total success.
That's for starters.
Then we count the bodies, examine the "waves of men over the top" tactic and assess that against "well led."
If you still have the stomach, we can ask why the Draconian methods used to maintain order, including the red tops behind the lines, constant reminders of court martial and what that could entail and forcing men to watch executions of their own mean't.
Of course, you can always just say they were well led and the white feathers, coercion and carnage were trivial irrelevances. You can have a book burning and include all the first hand accounts written down.
Up to you really, but don't expect to be taken seriously when you turn what you believe into some kind of truth stance and shout "liar" or "you lose" at those who have read extensively and formed conclusions. Including, incidentally, some of your named historians you seem so keen to throw around the debates.