Just in case anyone is sad enough to recall when Keith was interpreting HIV data in a way to substantiate Akenaton's desire to force gay people but nobody else to be registered and undergo invasive medical testing...

I gave an overview of preliminary figures that were not yet in the public domain, although at the time I thought they were. However, they now are and say what I said they say.

Bear in mind the only reason this is being discussed is the wish of Keith and Akenaton to vilify gay men, which is rather sick, but let's carry on. The advent of CCG and consequent public health being local government rathe than PCT reporting means historical figures have to be extrapolated for England rather than compared as boundaries have altered since April 2013. This was something Keith called a smokescreen, but the rest of us call the unnecessary reorganisation of The NHS. in other words, it happened...

There is a decline in MSM diagnosed late. This is good news, and the ongoing early MSM diagnosis is a sign that the stigma Keith and other bigots push is not working, as more people are heeding health advice and coming forward.

Women diagnosed is up 5%, in line with all diagnoses, which is concerning of course, but in line with what I said. More women receive anal sex than men, according to FCE figures.

There is very recent (since the 2013 interim report) evidence to suggest most of the undiagnosed MSM is very recent. This is a concern, but has no bearing on earlier discussion as it is a new dimension.

There is an overall small drop in heterosexual infection, largely due to fewer sub Sahara diagnoses, making Euro heterosexual infections slightly higher overall, and in line with the increase in women.

The other heterosexual infection comment from the report, which should be borne in mind is The number of reports among people who probably acquired HIV in The UK remains high at around 1500 per year."

Not quite Keith's claim of them falling then, as he includes sub Sahara in order to make MSM seem worse than it is. And sadly, while the "vast majority" of gay men do not carry HIV, stigma and hard to reach and engage means they are still, by demographic, the highest number.

But not worth hating them for eh?