Wesley, I'm an American and I think everyone in the world should lecture us about our gun laws. If you think we and our guns aren't a danger to everyone else in the world, you should wake up.

A gun in the home is seven times more likely to be used on a family member or friend than on an intruder. And then there are people like olddude who think breaking and entering should be a capital crime, with himself and judge, jury and executioner. Now THAT'S a person we want having legal access to guns. He's a fucking nut job and any sane person knows it.

Someone said earlier that guns in America are here to stay. Well, that's true as long as so many people shrug and say, Oh well, that's how it is.

Anyone who is a member of the NRA is personally responsible for lots of murders, since the NRA is one of the biggest things keeping us from acting like sane adults. If any gun control law would have ever saved one life but wasn't enacted, all NRA members are guilty.

And I don't want to hear the bullshit about criminals not obeying gun laws. So fucking what? What if guns were so illegal that people would cross the street to avoid walking past one? Someone has to start somewhere getting rid of the guns so the criminals won't have access to them. Doh! No guns, no gun deaths. Look at the chart that was posted earlier. We're killing people in job lots.

Since 9/11, which killed about 5000 people, the USA has spent 600 billion dollars fighting terrorism. During that time something like 300,000 Americans have been gunned down. I don't want your "Oh well", and I don't want you "no responsible gun owner does this or that". Prove it. Prove to me that NO gun owner leaves guns laying around. Prove to me thst NO guns are sold to criminals or crazy people. Prove to me that NO gun owners allows their children to have access to guns. Prove it or shut the fuck up.

Guess what? I'm really angry. I'm angry that I have to worry about saying something to the guy that cuts in front of me in the grocery line because he may well have a gun in his pocket. I'm angry that there are people in the mall, in the park, in the library, on the bus with guns and that the gun nuts can't prove to me that they are all well-trained, responsible, sane gun owners.

"If there were more people with guns, someone shooting in a mall would get dropped before he had a chance to kill very many people". What a stupid crock of shit. Here's the result of that scenario: Bystander 1 sees a crazy person pull a gun. He pulls his and fires at the crazy person. Bystander 2 sees Bystander 1 pull out a gun, pulls out his and fires. Bystander 3 sees a bunch of people with guns and jumps to the conclusion that they are all crazy people and starts firing at random. NONE of these people have every had a background check, any gun training, any safety training, nothing. They just went down to the store and bought a gun, no questions asked, no rules about it at all.

Olddude, this is what you promote -- lots of people with guns everywhere. Please explain to me how the above scenario isn't the sure result of an armed populace.