well of course its the level of the gutter that so much of the cannon fodder came from.

lets say we empathise with them - more than a load of holocaust denial merchants with the tags of intellectual respectability.

we know from the stories our grandparents what went on. let these confounders of legend, and connossieurs of paradox tell their truths to those young and credulous to listen.

tell the young that war is not so terrible, because our leaders can be trusted to only spill blood cautiously and wisely.

you will get a more receptive audience than our generation who grew up playing on bombsites - and failing to communicate with parents and grandparents who had been through hell.