Thanks, Jenny, I do stay in trouble, especially at the school where I teach, quite a lot. I know I need to lighten up sometimes, but I say high-mindedly and pompously or whatever, I will oppose anything or anyone that limits the chances of my students and others to recover from this madness, and yes, we are talking about real death here. My friend seed, once again I agree with you on just about everything, but one of my major points all along was that gangsta culture is not political or artistic, and is indeed, as you implied above, a hellish marriage of corporate greed, government and societal neglect, and an opportunity to get rich that no one with human characteristics would consider taking advantage of. And sadly, there is never going to be a society, government, or economy (except for specially created small ones) that is just. I wish I/we could have learned this fact an easier way. The realization of this was an awful part of growing up.

Looking for trouble, Chet W.