" GUEST,from can't remember when or which discussion - PM
Date: 10 Dec 14 - 04:49 AM

Teribus - when some of us were kids most of the people on any daytime bus would have had a similar story.

But then, according to you, my grandad was a liar and I am a liar for reporting what he said, and people who were actually their "must be biased"."

Now where did I ever claim or state any of that?

Not First World War I know but here is an example of what I said about "people who were there" not getting it quite right:

Ask any of those waiting to be plucked off the beaches of Dunkirk in 1940 about the RAF and most would have told you that they didn't turn up, that the RAF deserted the Army. That was their impression as they witnessed events. The truth? The RAF mounted a massive effort over the period of the evacuation they lost 145 fighters in the process. The Luftwaffe on the other hand lost 156 over the same period. OK you tell me were those eye-witness statements correct?