The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #156088   Message #3685023
Posted By: Jim Carroll
12-Dec-14 - 09:42 AM
Thread Name: WWI, was No-Man's Land
Subject: RE: WWI, was No-Man's Land
"From a television series? "
No - from the background information to that series, from someone we recorded in 1969 and from somebody who included it as part of a soldiers glossary (given to him by his veteran grandfather)
The only reason I raised the television series was to indicate that it was common knowledge among the soldiers.
You have the statements - the only response you give is to call the veterans who are being honoured for their part in the war "liars and attention seekers".
Your list of officially carried out executions makes interesting reading in light of your argument that those who fought did so willingly
If your buddy Kitchener had had his way, it would have included conscientious objectors - that wold have sorted out some of Keith's fellow-Christians
I share Steve Shaw's incredulity that anybody could be so dispassionate at the murder of so many what turned out to be sick young men.
I repeat the story Liverpool docker, Tommy Kenny told us about deserters.
He described them as not attempting to desert but "just walking away from the noise" - there was nowhere for them to desert to anyway.
They were rounded up, put on trial, and more-or-less automatically sentenced to death.
If there was a big push on, they were taken out of confinement and placed in the front line.
If they survived, they were returned to prison to await execution and eventually shot - when Tommy told us this it was one of a couple of occasions he broke down in tears.
More lies, no doubt
Jim Carroll