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Thread #156062 Message #3685175
Posted By: Jim Carroll
12-Dec-14 - 03:06 PM
Thread Name: Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2
Subject: RE: Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2
"Not true."
You've rejected them because they are dead, (which mean you have discounted writers who were alive when the war was being forugh, some of whom were soldiers), you've rejected them because they are left wing (which means because they don't share your extreme rightist views) and you've rejected eye witness accounts of soldiers because they are "attention seeking liars"
In return, you have offered around half a dozen modern historians (two employees of the army and one involved n the proliferation of weapons), and on this basis, you have claimed both a majority and a consensus of historians (at various times)
You have been given a list of points from the Paxman series - you refuse to respond to those points and claim the programme confirms your three points.
You started out mounted firmly on the back of tabloid journalist, Max Hastings and, despite the fact that he has been taken to task for his contempt of the British military, you still claim him as a supporter
You have cited the soldiers' diaries as proof of one of your points, but not once have you showed what these diaries contain or what assessment has been made of them - you have only referred to their existence
There are well over 100 historians studying different aspects of the war at the present time - no consensus has emerged from their work - if it had, it would have hit the fan long ago - the traditional view of history prevails - your own historians have admitted s much by claiming that they are working to change the current "misunderstanding" of history.
You have been asked to qualify your 'consensus' - you dodge the questiion like a Tommy in a trench dodged sniper bullets.
You have been asked to qualify your disgusting accusation that soldiers are liars - that smear remains.
Now - about this consensus of yours.....?
Who do you think your fooling Mr Acheson? as somebody once sang
Jim Carroll