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Thread #156222 Message #3685353
Posted By: GUEST
13-Dec-14 - 09:58 AM
Thread Name: BS: Well, I'm not a scientist...
Subject: RE: BS: Well, I'm not a scientist...
"you were not bothered to frame your own arguments on this occasion either"
That's why I provided the link to the Evolution Megalab. The answers you need are there, no point in me repeating them.
"Actually, Stu, I'm quite well educated including university level courses in Evolution and Genetics."
Apologies Snail. None of that was aimed at you, but at Pete whom I was hoping might actually click the link. This hope was dashed when I read his reply.
That said, evolution isn't a religion but a fact. The point of the snail study is to show how the variation in alleles of snails of various populations are affected by agents that help drive evolution, in this case predation and environment and how they adapt to the presence of those agents. This is part of an OU undergrad degree course and a serious data-gathering exercise, and I'm sure many scientists would be happy to work with data such as those being generated by this project.
"There is nothing there that is a direct observation of evolution."
What would satisfy you as a being a "direct observation of evolution".
"It started as bugs and , best I can see , is still bugs."
What were you expecting exactly? You do understand that evolution is incremental and works over long periods of time? We can see evolution happen in these bacteria as they adapt, but that's only a single change in a single allele of one population of many. Quite a few of these changes will accrue over time and then you might eventually see speciation occur.
But I forget - time is exactly what you don't have.