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Thread #156284 Message #3685662
Posted By: Bill D
14-Dec-14 - 02:18 PM
Thread Name: BS: CIA torturers (God Bless America)
Subject: RE: BS: CIA torturers (God Bless America)
I also agree with John P and Don Firth above..... and though I 'agree' with Rahere's concerns, I have difficulty with his phrasing:
"You're still not addressing the point about the US thinking it's a purely internal affair, though. WHY do they even begin to think that, WHERE are they coming from? A Nation which can be so ignorant of anything outside of its borders must be a menace to us all."
This is a misleading and inaccurate characterization- **nations** do not 'think' and are not 'ignorant'. People- , that is, individuals are guilty of flaws in attitude & behavior. It is well documented that there were Germans who defied Hitler and the Nazis... and often suffered for it. When *individuals* who have power and status in a country abuse rationality, it is no wonder they often abuse other humans.... which leads to atrocities being attributed to entities which can be defined more simply. I can see the temptation to attribute actions to "a country", but doing so obscures the fact that many million in that country despise what has been done in their name. In the US, our political system and structure unfortunately does allow the possibility of the wrong **individuals** getting too much power... and correcting this is not a matter of just some national vote saying "hey, quit that!"... and correcting the entire system brings up metaphors of correcting course on a very large ship.
I DO wish 'we' could correct those problems which are so obvious to many of us... but I also wish there were more understanding shown regarding the situation we protesters are in as we try to deal with the stupidity up top.