Christmas's new flag which he seems to enjoy waving – The Western Front Association.

Oh c'mon Christmas don't be shy why not just include the last paragraph of that section:

"For the dispassionate observers who did not go through this ordeal on a personal basis, they found, and find, it easier to come to more rational conclusions. In recent years, most informed commentators tend to find in favour of DH, given the circumstances of his command. And there, surely, it rests: each informed observer must decide for him/herself."

Now whereas the likes of Keith and Lighter and others who have posted generally in agreement with Keith's three original contentions do give the impression of being "informed observers", the Muskets (Fat, Gay {How you described yourself pal}, Sycophant Hyena), Jim Carroll, Steve Shaw, Greg F and GUEST seem hell bent on trying to cling to myths that have long been disproved.

Now how about Pershing's opinion of HAIG? (Paraphrased: The man who won the war - couldn't have been done without him).

Cold and indifferent to his men? Well French Field Marshal Petain "cared" for his men but he still sent them to die in their droves (Their fatalities were 57% higher than ours), and while the French Armies mutinied and refused to attack, the British and Commonwealth Armies did not.

To GUEST the "White Feather Myth" was the one pushed by Christmas in one of the many WWI Threads - His claim was that the handing out of White Feathers to men obviously not in uniform was some monstrous Government Policy devised to drive men into the Army - Absolutely not true (As Lighter states it came from the Women's Suffrage Movement nothing whatsoever to do with the Government). Another of Christmas's MYTHS was the MUS Falsehood that the promise that "the war would be over by Christmas" was one given solemnly by the British Government to each and every recruit as an enticement to join up - Now not having been able to supply the source of this Government promise or any recruiting poster that states it, it rather flies in the face of well documented and recorded enlistment records for the period August 1914 to December 1914 when in answer to Lord Kitchener's appeal ~1,200,000 British men volunteered for service (NOTE Volunteered NOT Recruited) - now I make that five months and at that time, they didn't have uniforms for all these men, they didn't have rifles for all these men, they didn't have the training staff or training camps for all these men - so perhaps Jim Carroll can tell us just how the f**k they were going to get to the Front and what exactly they were expected to do to win the war before Christmas unarmed and untrained as they were.