"Jim, historians do not agree on much."
Tell you what Keith
You have had my analysis bases on my interest in European history and politics.
I don't ave to scurry behind the names of historians as you have done, nor do I have to invent opinions of others to hide behind, a you have also done - these are my understandings of the subject - nobody else's
If you disagree with them, feel free to put me right - not with words you have cut-'n-pasted (and edited to suit your case), but with your own opinions and your own understanding
Every single argument you have put here has been from a carefully selected and edited cut-'n-paste - every single ******* one - there is nothing you have put up here that has come from your own knowledge.
If you haven't the interest to have an opinion that you can claim to be your own, without hiding behind the supposed words of others, kindly fuck off and leave these discussion to those who have.
If I want an accurate account of what Margaret McMillan or Gary Sheffield or any other exert on the subject believes to be true, I'll go and read their books - your behaviour here had proved to us all that your interpretations are not to be trusted - the number of times you have been forced to write "I win" is evidence enough to prove you are a feeble-minded obsessive.
Jim Carroll.