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Thread #156239   Message #3687690
Posted By: Jim Carroll
22-Dec-14 - 03:12 AM
Thread Name: BS: I am not an historian but........
Subject: RE: BS: I am not an historian but........
"My original reference."
That's what I said, your claim that Taylor and Clark were fakes was a lie.
"The Guardian last week described the work of Clark and Taylor as "fraudulent."
"I just gave you linked quotes of Margaret Macmillan"
You have been claiming thoughout the latter half of this that you have proved a consensus amng historians - Choosing MacMillian proves no such think WHERE IS YOUR CONSENSUS?
THROUGHOUT THIS, YOU HAVE BASED YOUR ENTIRE CASE THE IDEA THAT ALL HISTORIANS AGREE (your phrase) AND THE NONSENSICAL IDEA THAT ONE GENERATION OF HISTORIANS HAVE SUPERCEDED ANOTHER IN AN ANALYSIS OF THE WAR - UTTER NONSENSE.
10 VIEWS OF THE WAR
There is no one view of the war - your own handful of historians have stated that in their own description of their objectives "to correct the popular misconceptions.
Tou prsent your six as a monolith - all agreeing with each other - most have described the war as a conflict of Empires, one has suggested it was a a fight against Germany tyranny, some have said it was inevitable, yet one historian, in his book 'Sleepwalkers, says it could have been avoided with diplomacy.
MacMillan points out that it is wrong to blame any any one single power, others have made similar points........ and so ad infinitum.
Fra from their being one view, there are dozens
You have made a set of rules suggesting that no dead historian can be trusted and you have written off historians, not on the basis of their being wrong, but because they are dead - understandable in your case, as you have read none of them and have not offered a single piece of information that you haven't hastily cut-'n-pasted and presented out of context and occasionally doctored.
One again you have fucked up an intesting discussion with your ignorance, your arrogance, your outright dishonesty and above all, your desire to win.
You treat these discussions as one-upmanship competitions and once again, you have managed to make a total idiot of yourself with hour couple of dozen claims of having done so.
You are one of the most dishonest self-declared Christian I have ever come across - New Year is coming up shortly - perhaps a resolution is in order.
I reiterate my suggestion to all that if you ever indulge in this sewer-like behaviour again with a viw to taking over and destroying another thread, you be boycotted - you are the antithesis of the very concept of honest discussion.
Jim Carroll