Bill, you do not really debate with me.

"there is a book called how to lie with statistics"...that is simply a devious way of calling me a liar.
To my knowledge, you have never disputed the facts on MSM STD figures, never debated why they are so bad; do you really think all who oppose homosexual "marriage" are bigots and "homophobes"?(what a stupid word).
All I have read on the subject, suggests that the lifestyle is dangerous and unhealthy, on the other side of the argument, all I have heard is that it is "just not fair" to oppose promotion of said lifestyle.

When you say that I am "ill informed" you are wrong, those who blindly call for equality in all things are the ones who are ill informed, especially taking into account the nature of our economic and social system.

Today on BBC Radio I heard a case being made for Great Ape "rights".....get that Chongo??? and they are now to be called "Non Human Persons".....Chongo no doubt will be the first activist and many from this forum like Greg, "The Muskets", Steve, and a dozen nameless guests will rally behind his banner.
I await the first person/person "marriage with a mixture of awe and despair...   :0)

Regarding this forum, we should be able to discus our views freely and without resort to name calling, abuse, cursing, libelling, stalking, or the use of multiple personas to further our case.

This section is for free discussion of any subject of interest to the membership, if any subject were to be banned for political or ideological reasons, I would be the first to leave...Ake