I see, Spaw, that you have been driven to talking to yourself on Mudcat. Sad. Why not strike up a conversation with the Boogie Woogie Bass instead? I heard they're gonna bring out a beefed up version of the fish for next Christmas and it will sing "Space Oddity" and various Barry Manilow hits as well. Every now and then it will utter the phrase "Hit me!" for variety. They're gonna call it "Calvin the Casino Cod".- LH