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Thread #156620   Message #3693660
Posted By: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
13-Mar-15 - 12:32 PM
Thread Name: BS: Who is training ISIS the US Army
Subject: RE: BS: Who is training ISIS the US Army
...but what does this have to do with, 'Who is training ISIS the US Army'??

I found Teribus to be perfectly willing to discuss facts, as our posts illustrate. The only variation, was his opinion that UBL, was not on the radar screen with American intelligence...(on his last post with me). I disagree, I think they knew a LOT more about him, and what he was about, than has been disclosed. Nonetheless, I dug the fact that the exchanged posts actually clarified the situation, and was educational. If either he or I disintegrated into unsupported 'snarky' bullshit, then it would have failed to allow the true history of it all to come out.
That being said, I've often wonder why, when 19 of the 21 911 terrorists were Saudis, and Bush, in his speech on the matter, declared he was going after ANY and All countries who supported the terrorists, etc etc..why he went after Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia.
...and therein lies the rub, and the cause of much head-scratching.
From 'our side', we've been led to believe that this act was just an act from radical loonies with radical ideas about their religion....but if one were from the Middle East, they might see it quite a bit differently....(not that I agree with them, but to try to understand it)...after all, we supplied both sides in the Iraq/Iran war. Now whether one lived in those two countries or not, but in the region, you might find that rather 'unsettling', to say the least...and if you're a religious zealot, well just take a look.
One thing for certain, through the corruption of a rather small group of arms and drug dealers, within the bowels of our body politic, they have steered the course of our foreign policies...without any say from the purposely duped public!!!....and now we are reaping the consequences, whether or not you favor arms or drugs!!!!!....or conflicts that may be completely reactionary to their corrupt greed, secrecy, and bi-passing any rational debate on the consequences of their deeds. Instead, the partisan machine makes it perfectly acceptable to defend these guys....if you perceive that this issue is along party lines. The Democrats will steer people away from holding a Democrat responsible for their part, as well as Republicans don't want too much focus on their side of the perpetrators. This corruption is not indicative of the political parties involved, BUT the dialogue is usually fashioned to get everyone to 'look away', and blame each other....while the bullshit keeps going on....as it is, anyway, confidence in our government(s) has eroded very dismally. We love to boast that we are such a 'superpower', and the 'policeman of the world'.....but give the biggest crooks, who steer world opinion, though accommodating them, about our foreign policy, and America 'principles' a black eye.....and all we do, is make excuses for them!!! ...and it's BOTH parties...and that is a fact!
So in essence, the greed of the bankster/mega-corporations, and the arms and drug dealers ARE the two 'parties' being represented and protected as first priorities, sanctioned by BOTH political parties, and at best, only get labelled as 'special interests'!
Is it any wonder why people of the world view America, as a cesspool of corruption???!!!??...and react the way they have????...and why we, as a nation, run around the world, accommodating them, and PRETENDING to champion some 'righteous cause'???...turning well-intentioned people into their pawns, to frothing idiot-logues???..defending such criminals into 'heroes' of whichever 'political party' they happen to be hiding behind???
Something to consider, when you 'choose' a side.

GfS