Steve t, I guess before I could consider a position like the one you described, I would have to come up with either a gut feeling or a working definition of what constitutes politics. The women you were describing in Ottawa were of course ridiculous. I believe, as Walt Whitman said it (approximately), that everything that is a part of you is also a part of me, meaning that we are all capable, if only physically, of any act that anyone else commits. Perhaps these women were relating bad experiences in their own lives, but I wonder if it ever crossed their minds the spectacular chauvinism of their song. It was the same as saying all black children are potential murderers. Other than the Nazis and the KKK, I doubt they would get much of an appreciative audience for that. But Shambles is right in pointing out that the important thing is that you, and no doubt many others, thought about an issue and hopefully came to a conclusion that you're comfortable with. As for the advertisements aimed at children too young to have an income, take a look at the cereal section the next time you're in the grocery store. All the sweet cereals with cartoon animals on the box and a surprise inside are invariably on the bottom shelf, where short little children can see them. Everything else, from granola to silage is on the top shelf. More to say but we're having a storm here. I'll be back.

Chet W.