I shall post more info , if appropriate, later. But we are just making sure all family know in the best manner possible. In these days of instant social media sometimes it can be insensitive, by nature of the beast. Anyway John is survived by two sons and a daughter , and a sister. news has had to go to Australia.
and of course he has grandchildren.
Today has been a difficult day for many in the family and for many friends too.

John James