musket - i did suggest that everyone-it's not all about you - stops trading insults. i mentioned your name as your latest outburst did catch the eye more than most. i think you may have asked me what planet i am on before. i havn't bothered to really work it out yet - but it is some old hippy idealist red/green one to be sure. at least i don't have to work out who i am. today.

i always found it odd that some folk prefer to hide their voting intentions. as i can honestly say i have not had more than half a dozen conversations in 40 years with people who make the conservative argument, i would guess people are not so happy to do so as are us loud-mouthed lefty types. are they ashamed or is there no humane argument to be made for today's unprincipled capitalism?