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Thread #156666   Message #3700429
Posted By: GUEST,Shimrod
08-Apr-15 - 03:23 AM
Thread Name: BS: BBC v. Jeremy Clarkson.
Subject: RE: BS: BBC v. Jeremy Clarkson.
Well, pete, I had a bit of a read up on Louis Pasteur and here's a passage about him from an essay entitled "Louis Pasteur: A Religious Man?" by Brendon Barnett (2011):

"More than anything Pasteur believed in experimental science. As he said himself, "Experimental science is essentially positivist in the sense that in its conceptions it never conerns itself with the essence of things, the origin of the world or its final destiny." Pasteur of course was a product of 19th century Europe and unmistakeably was effected by the beliefs of the Enlightenment. However, unlike many others, Pasteur asserted the preeminence of hypotheses over religious or metaphysical prejudices and always seemed willing to abandon theories that were outdated or useless in practicality. Pasteur often saw religion as a hinderance to scientific progress. In 1874, presiding over the award ceremony at the Collège of Arbois, he clearly stated his position:

"I know that the word free thinker is written somewhere within our walls as a challenge and an affront. Do you know what most of the free thinkers want? Some want the freedom not to think at all and to be fettered by ignorance; others want the freedom to think badly; and others still, the freedom to be dominated by what is suggested to them by instinct and to despise all authority and all tradition. Freedom of thought in the Cartesian sense, freedom to work hard, freedom to pursue research, the right to arrive at such truth as is accessible to evidence and to conform one's conduct to these exigencies--oh! let us vow a cult to this freedom; for this is what has created modern society in its highest and most fruitful aspects."

Pasteur had great respect for the unknown and the infinite, but did not allow himself to become a victim of superstition and fanatical religious explanations."

Now I know that you're going to dwell exclusively on Pasteur's thoughts on experimentation and tell us for the umpteenth time that you can't perform experiments on evolution, blah, blah, blah ... But, of course, you know that, in reality, you're being selective because experimentation is not the only tool in the scientist's toolbox. But the bits that you should really focus on, and reflect on, are Pasteur's view that religion can be a hinderance to scientific progress and that last sentence. You, of course, are a "victim of superstition and fanatical religious explanations" and Pasteur would probably not have approved of you!