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Thread #156848   Message #3700487
Posted By: GUEST,Allan Conn
08-Apr-15 - 07:57 AM
Thread Name: BS: voting? (UK)
Subject: RE: BS: voting? (UK)
Teribus the point was not about buying property in Spain. You are right anybody can buy property there. The point is that there are nigh on a million Brits living in Spain at the moment, many of whom, I'd imagine most of whom have bought property. The price of property in Spain has fallen dramatically over the last few years. There are many people who would struggle, or in fact find it virtually impossible, should they have to relocate back to the UK. What I was asking was how can UKIP guarantee how the likes of, for instance, the Spanish gvt would treat a million permanent residents who are no longer EU citizens? It is a fair question which no-one has yet answered. It is a genuine question to! We know what UKIP are suggesting but do we know how the EU would view it and probably more importantly the individual member countries?

As to the SNP membership then of course having a large membership guarantees nothing. I never suggested it does but it does show a movement of fortunes within the parties in Scotland. It is head in the sand stuff to deny that. One Labour politician the other day described it as a tsunami. For those not in Scotland the figures are quite remarkable.

The estimates for Labour and Tory membership in Scotland are 13,135 and 12,000 each. Looks reasonable for the Tories but they have a lot to worry about due to the demographics in their membership with what I'd imagine is probably a very elderly average age. The Lib Dems have 3,000 members. At the time of the referendum date the SNP had 25,000 members which had grown to 43,644 just 3 days after the vote; then to 62,870 by a week after the vote. People thought it would soon stop but just kept going. Teribus states 100,000 but that is already out of date. At the SNP conference just a couple of weeks ago it had reached 102,000 and is now thought to be at the 103,000 mark.

Potential voting patterns are changing too. Traditionally the SNP do not do all that well at Wesminster elections. Last election they obtained just under 20% of the total vote. In a poll just this week the SNP are now standing at 46% of the total whereas the Labour/Tory/LibDem combined vote is 48% in total. One percentage swing and the SNP are standing equal with all 3 major unionist parties combined.

None of that guarantees anything but it is easy to see who is currently doing well in Scotland!