The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #157044   Message #3705926
Posted By: Richie
02-May-15 - 11:10 AM
Thread Name: Origins: Barbara Allen
Subject: RE: Origins: Barbara Allen
Jim,

It's not that his parent didn't know traditional ballads, that has nothing to do with attributing fully formed ballads to fragments and dim recollections. He might have remembered his father's singing-- these familial attributions are something that happen to perpetuate traditional versions as being completely "traditional". There are only so many ballads a singer knows from his family. I have made no detailed study- but it has been something I've sensed for a while. I have no problem with ballad recreation- only with ballad recreations that are attributed as traditional- the numbers are staggering.

John Jacob Niles learned a number of ballads from his father :)

Anne,

My postulation is that when writers refer to a ballad going back to an original print version, they are actually referring to, in some cases, a traditional version that has been printed. Obviously some print versions are merely copies or edited copies of another print version.

Richie