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Thread #157132   Message #3706601
Posted By: Teribus
05-May-15 - 09:02 AM
Thread Name: BS: Pro / Anti Thatcher Squabble Thread...
Subject: RE: BS: Pro / Anti Thatcher Squabble Thread...
1: "The trade union movement has been just about dismantled in this country"

Just as well it was, back in the day they were out to ruin the country.

2: "zero-hours contracts"

less than 3% of the working population of the country are working on zero hours contracts. Zero hour contract or no work at all which do you want?

3: "There can be no second referendum on Scottish independence in the next parliament."

Really?? Does Nicola Sturgeon know that? She did after all refuse to rule precisely that out in a recent Scottish Leaders debate - all they have to is take a vote on it at their next conference and it goes into the SNP Manifesto for the 2016 Scottish Parliamentary elections. Having granted a referendum on that basis previously if Ed Miliband and Labour wanted to stay in power then they would have to agree to Nicola's demands after the 2016 Scottish elections (In Scotland they are talking about 2019 as being the target date).

4: "It is neither being sought nor would it be constitutionally viable within the time unless it was an explicit part of the manifesto of a party that was in power or joint power, and it isn't."

You can bet your boots that a referendum on Independence will be in the next SNP Manifesto before the Scottish Parliamentary elections - if it is not then the SNP will face a rebellion among its new membership that will destroy their party in 2020.

5: By the way Stevieboy when did the statement "Scotland will not become a single-party "state" ever become the same thing as "will see Scotland all but become a single party state" - if you cannot see the difference then there really is no point discussing anything with you as you plainly do not comprehend the English language.

Oh by the way, Alex Salmond if elected, will probably be the SNP leader at Westminster, and he and the other Westminster SNPs will take their orders direct from their Leader Nicola Sturgeon First Minister in Scotland (Unless she losses the 2016 election and I cannot see that happening)

6: "As for staying in power being the only concern of any new Labour government, well let's remember which tawdry pair of parties made "staying in power for five guaranteed years" the law. Er, wasn't Labour, was it?"

Bet they don't repeal it and there is no cast guarantee that they will be there for five years as:

" the Act also provides for two ways in which a general election can be held before the end of this five-year period:

- If the House of Commons resolves "That this House has no confidence in Her Majesty's Government", an early general election is held, unless the House of Commons subsequently resolves "That this House has confidence in Her Majesty's Government". This second resolution must be made within fourteen days of the first.

- If the House of Commons, with the support of two-thirds of its total membership (including vacant seats), resolves "That there shall be an early parliamentary general election"."