Steve Shaw says: but let's all assert that there is nothing immoral about gay sex and there never has been

That's your opinion, Steve, and it's also my opinion. But I think that dealing in absolutes, is what gets our society in a lot of trouble. I believe that people should have the right to question the morality of gay sex, and to publicly discuss that question.

As for ake's thinking about priests molesting teenage males (and females, for that matter), I think he has a point. Many young priests have hopelessly immature ideas about sex, and I think their actions may be due to sexual immaturity that is different from what motivates those who molest prepubescent children. I think there is a need to discuss child molestation honestly and with open minds. I do not think this thread is an appropriate place for discussion of child molestation. Let's stick to the topic of gay marriage here.

-Joe Offer-