Well I'm very suspicious of the Bible, but I do want to know what makes believers tick. I appear to have hit on one of those Keith/Guardian/Geoffrey Wheatcroft moments, but with pete this time. He seems to be a bit of a Bible literalist, yet he takes apparently simple and transparent language and fashions it into words that were neither said nor, as far as I can glean, intended. That's quite interesting. One hopes it's not typical. I suspect it isn't. Anyway, I conclude that neither Jesus, if he existed, nor the gospel writers claiming to be quoting him, mentioned anything about marriage having to be between a man and a woman. And far be it from me to remind pete, a far greater Bible aficionado than myself, but one shouldn't really have to stretch beyond all reason the words of a man who enjoined that speech should be yea yea and nay nay.