The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #157281   Message #3712432
Posted By: Jim Carroll
28-May-15 - 04:36 AM
Thread Name: BS: All changed, changed utterly.
Subject: RE: BS: All changed, changed utterly.
"Why did you put up with it?"
Christian fundamentalism Keith - it's called the power of the church.
You once argued (over the death of a young woman who was refused an abortion on religious grounds) that the Church had no say in Irish politics --very much not the case.
Up to fairly recently the Church had a strong say in Irish politics; it took revelations of decades, possibly centuries of widespread rape of children and the covering up of the crime by the Church (from top to bottom) to undermine their power
The removal of the clause in the Irish Constitution was a major step in breaking that grip, though they persist on trying to cling on by the fingernails - pregnancy termination, getting the government to pat compensation for decades of child abuse and the Magdalene Laundries, now gay marriage.
Centuries of despotic power doesn't disappear overnight - it's a long process.
Ten years ago, this referendum would have been unthinkable - now it' been won something to be proud of, not to knock - "the expense, disruption and hoopla of the great referendum.".
If you are so in favour of gay marriage, why have you opposed it on every issue, first, the bakery, on which you claimed that the judge didn't know her job, now on the referendum which you appear to be describing as a waste of time and money and an inconvenience - denigrating the result as having achieved nothing.
A strange way of supporting gay marriage, to my mind
"Allow me to point out that what I compared was my disdain for neo-Nazism"
Had you said this when you posted, or even clarified it later when it was challenged, I certainly wouldn't have made an issue of what you said.
You didn't, and as I pointed out, it remained said.
Can't go back and check now, of course as it's been removed as a thread and expunged from the archive.