PFR & Jim Carroll having been born and brought up in the UK then the guiding principles that determined right and wrong, good and evil, what was acceptable and what was not is all based on "Christian" teaching and "Christian" ethics - doesn't matter whether or not your parents or even grandparents believed or not, they were all born into a society and in a country where the church was generally respected as were those responsible for education - both went hand in glove.

Hah! Is that why my great-grandparents and their forefathers before them, and millions like them, them sweated their guts out in mines, factories and agriculture for pittances, while the Great and Good of Society - guided in their principles by the Church - lived a quite different life. I suppose that was acceptable at the time, as was the Peterloo Massacre or perhaps the mass emigration of agricultural workers from East Anglia in the 1830s - acts in which the clergy played a prominent part. Shall we add the Poor Laws and the miseries of the Union Workhouses to the list of occurrences in this Christian country of ours?

Christian teaching and ethics be buggered. I can tell you that my own family's opinion of the Church and its teachings was unrepeatable.