The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #157281   Message #3712992
Posted By: Jim Carroll
30-May-15 - 03:56 AM
Thread Name: BS: All changed, changed utterly.
Subject: RE: BS: All changed, changed utterly.
"Nobody is as bad as you describe people so often and so broadly. Not even you are that bad."
No one individual maybe Joe - thought a case can be made.....
But they are all aspects of '(in)humanity' that have appeared in some of the arguments on this forum at one time or another - suggest you tiptoe through some of the discussions on chemical weapons, The Middle East, The Irish Famine, Travellers or Ireland sometime.
"I like to think that "right" and "wrong" can be determined by logic"
Agreement at last - of course they can.
Such qualities cannot be taught - they are part of human development, acquired over time through environment, experience and contact with others
Who on earth is going to accept brotherly love from teachers who try to beat it into you, or thou shalt not kill from an organisation that sends generations of young people to war, or blesses bombs....?
It is nonsense to suggest that such teaching produces the humanity or compassion that I associate with being human.
Down the road a mile from here is a Georgian building, 'Ball's School', (now a still tyre changing business) still know under this name locally for it's history.
The Famine hit this part of Ireland extremely badly, and at the height of it, Protestant preachers moved in and set up schools.
They offered soup to their pupils on the condition that they changed their religion - those that wouldn't were turned away.
'Souper' schools existed all over Ireland throughout The Famine and examples of similar behaviour are to be found in other parts of The British Empire - humane - tolerant - compassionate? - don't think so, but it was the remnants of that Empire that influenced my generation when we were growing up.
You become what you are by experience, not in the classroom.
Jim Carroll