Steve Shaw: " If you're hoodwinked into ignoring vast bodies of evidence and harbouring the nonsense of creationism, you can't possibly be possessed of the sound enough mind required to officiate in a Supreme Court. You're a menace to society there, frankly. As for Congress deciding, well Congress is always so infallibly wise, isn't it?"

Steve Shaw: "I tried to make the distinction between those people of faith who try to accommodate science, that is the advancement of human knowledge via evidence, and those who wilfully deny overwhelming evidence in order to espouse a completely unsustainable, mad notion such as creationism."

I think you are the one who can't make the 'distinction'.....
Let's say it all began with a 'Big Bang'....and everything that came about, came from that 'Big Bang'.....and everything that came to be, consists of elements from the 'Big Bang'......(Fair enough?)........

Now if light, from which all things are made, and consist of suddenly came into being, as in 'Let there be Light'....and it just came into existence...isn't THAT a creation???????

Also, you might consider this:

John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. ..."
Acts 17: 28 "For in him we have life and motion and existence; as certain of your verse writers have said, For we are his offspring."

Now how else would you describe this for the common man to understand, given the times and limitations of the language??

Think about it.

....and this is consistent with other 'religions, AND the laws of physics.......(for what it's worth)
It is a shame that this has been reduced to rituals and 'Church politics of made made structures....(from which you have been bit, and alienated from the fuller meaning, of what people call 'God').

Fair enough????

GfS