CarolC, Yes, my time zone is a little behind you guys, that's why I can never figure out where I am, I'm ten hours behind Morticia, which means for her it's tomorrow, for me it's yesterday, I get to read your comments the day before you wrote them, or something like that. As for being Morticia's sister, would you first explain to my ONLY sister how she had a second daughter (one with a FUCHSIA tattoo)so late in life. For the rest of it.. yeah, a trip to Hawaii in the middle of your winter seems like a good idea to me. The roses are blooming. Where are you? Now, Rowana, about that secret handshake, that would be quite an accomplishment. Mousethief, thank you for a most interesting afternoon. Fin