See, there you go again, Keith. You people. You are kidding yourselves. You think yours is the only view. Etc. The language of confrontation. That seems to be your goal. Goad people then complain when they react. Not once have I said mine is the only view. In fact I have said very clearly that it is a very complex issue with many facets. Just who are "you people" anyway? If you really do not want this thread closed try listening to other people instead of tarring them all with the same brush.