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Thread #157589   Message #3720525
Posted By: GUEST,Musket sans ginger nuts
02-Jul-15 - 09:34 AM
Thread Name: BS: Beach massacre in Tunisia
Subject: RE: BS: Beach massacre in Tunisia
Ah.. Did you notice the word "Muslim" come into it?

Oh, it was a quote from a newspaper, silly me. You can't hold the person posting to account if they are quoting.. I should have known.

They aren't Muslims Keith. They are fanatics who have been brainwashed by evil old men who tell them it is a Muslim thing. Plenty of people claim Jesus told them to shoplift, rape, fiddle their taxes.

A bit like the Pope hiding paedophiles in his employment, because perverting the course of justice must be a Christian thing.

Same weird logic.

Anyway, at a wedding last Saturday, I couldn't help noticing a poster in the entrance for children to join their "Young Crusader" club, luring them with the er.. promise of adventure.

It's this linking terrorists with my friends and colleagues who happen to be Muslim that gets my halal goat. Far more criminals behind bars who claim to be christians, so why keep vilifying good people Keith?

Keith?

For the benefit of giving a view, I feel it would be naive to say that not accepting "western values" whatever that means is a route towards supporting murder. It is also naive to say that one religion supports murdering infidels more than another for that matter. All the main ones have a history to be ashamed of.

Most UK people who happen to be Muslim must get fed up with politicians saying they should do more to prevent kids doing awful things. If someone said to me, "You go to pubs, you live near one and you have a cultural need to laugh and joke with friends in them, so what are you doing about binge drinking, vomit in the street and liver failure in younger people?

I'd be at a loss as to what to do.

A bit like my ex secretary Tahir. He tells me how his Imam preaches all the time against ISIS ideals, happily tells his congregation of how he reported an issue to the police once and encourages people to do the same. Ditto his father's Imam in a different town etc etc.

Yes, there are many aspects of religion I can't understand and don't want to. Misogyny, homophobia, instilling a sense of guilt, creating multi tier society and perpetuating controls on communities.

But I no more see today's terrorism as a reason to suspect Muslims any more than seeing atrocities in the name of Jesus a reason to round up Christians.

Given time, both will be footnotes of history. Sadly, it will take a few generations but looking at the fall of christianity in developed countries, it won't take forever.