Jim, we hear you. In my message of 01 Jul 15 - 08:41 AM, I advocated a "revolution" to get the state running at last. Debts may be discussed after this has succeeded - which will not be any time soon. At the moment nobody expects back a substantial percentage, so that all new credits amount to donations. Donations are made more happily if there is some hope.

Just now I am listening to a discussion between young Greeks in English on the BBC.