A long accepted fact Keith - the Church of England has always been described as "The Tory Party at Prayer" It was not accepted as fact by someone on a nearby discussion only yesterday (or has something been deleted here ?)

their presence is purely a political one and always has been. Don't get that. Politics is what they do in Parliament.

There has never been any doubt about the political role of the church Evidence please ?

Up to The French Revolution France red herring.

Nor did I think that you would offer an explanation of why the Church should play any part in the governance of Britain. He doesn't need to. The explanation can be foudn in Howard Jones' first post.


You guys think that arguing with Keith is like shooting fish in a barrel. Well its a barrel with a lot of mud in it that you keep stirring up. When it comes to logical fallacies other people's posts can provide much easier targets. They line the fish up neatly in a row. And some of them are red herrings.

Watch it guys. The Keith's may win.