"This is debt, not political philosophy. "
Matter of opinion
As far as I can see, whatever it started out to be, it is now a matter of forcing a government to adopt a political line - that was mooted as being the reason for its being set up from the beginning.
"The money must be returned so you can carry on drawing your pension from The UK government whilst in Ireland."
Nonsense - any threat to our pensions comes from domestic policy, not the Greek, Portuguese... or any external debt.
If the E.U. cannot support the members states in times of hardship (caused by bankers and politicians worldwide, it can only be a force for imposing political philosophies on those States.
The E.U. does not only involve itself in financial matters (it is not a bank) - it is an organisation which adopts stances and pronounces opinions on all matters (including how the workers in those states are treated - which Britain is now trying to manipulate)
The financial problems today are worldwide and have been generated by politicians nad financeers misnbehaving themselves - it is no way the fault of those suffering the worst for that misbehaviour.
What youy are apparently doing is setting the interests of the Irish, British, German... people. one against the other and letting those really to blame (a fact that you have not even bothered to deny) off the hook - do you believe that constitutes "European Union"?.
Greece is part of the Europesn Community - not the ****** currency - it is the people of theose member states that matter, not their monetary unit.
"It isn't the "bankers" they are shafting"
They are not "shafting" anybody, they are attempting to live up to election pledges to protect the Greek people from more austerity - if there were a few more governments like that, we would not be in the mess wew are in.
"What part of that don't you like? "
I don't like the idea that a referendum can be described as "a dishonest betrayal" - that, more than anything, tells me that this is wah this about - obviously doesn't bother you - why should it - Cameron is happily making your lot a happier one by ascertaining that Britain doesn't even have to abide by the poor-enough conditions set out for workers by the E.U.
You blew your cover when you described Britain's workers as having a "scrounger's philosophy" - one of Thatcher's children.
Jim Carroll