"I still think it's OK for some of those in the present day heirarchy to be chosen to express their views in an organised talking shop. Otherwise they and the rest of the gang there would be doing it behind closed doors. They may still be but leaks revealing hypocrisy and inconsistency spread fast now"

My problem XX as I have said before the church has 26 seats in the House of Lords in perpetuity. Neither you nor I nor anyone else has any say in the matter. We, the people, cannot decide we do not like what they are saying or doing and remove them. It can easily be argued that they are not representative of the population, a small minority of people attend church on a regular basis and those numbers are propped up by the migrant population (which is sure to "please" a number of posters on this forum.)

The House of Lords in it's current format is an anachronism which is past it's sell by date, but as I've previously stated that is a separate discussion. I would prefer if people would stay on the main argument much as I love architecture.