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Thread #157770   Message #3727213
Posted By: Jim Carroll
30-Jul-15 - 10:52 AM
Thread Name: BS: Stalin
Subject: RE: BS: Stalin
Thank you for confirming your ignorance on Ireland and your position based on that ignorance You have Kenneally's statement that it was deliberate genocide - you swore the one who produced her in the first place and who described her as "knowing more than the rest of us put together) yet she agreed with Coogan's conclusion that the results of the famine were deliberate.
You have also been given the full facts of the warehoused bursting to the seams, yet locked wile Ireland starved (exactly as happened in The Ukraine).
You have been linked to Trevelyan's statement that the Famine was God's punishment on the Irish people for their indolent ways.
All this, and your argument remains unchandes.
what exactly are you arguing here Keith?
Didn't Trevelyan make his statements (about both the Irish and the Scots?
Wasn't he the British appointed as advisor on the Famine?
Didn't the Government lock full warehouses and put armed guards on them?
Didn't the Russell's Tory Government dismantle all the relief measures put into place by Peel's administration
Didn't they adopt a laisse faire policy of selling famine relief to impoverished Irish peasants at market prices?
Wasn't the sugestion made by Trevelyan that the Famine was a possible solution to the Irish Question?
Weeren't the Irish people geiven the alternatives, emigrate or starve?
Which of these statements do you actually dispute?
Which of them make my arguments bollocks
This is exactly what I mean about taking quotes out of context and ignroing facts
You have taken two of your own quotes totally out of context to prove that you didn't say what yo have said
Couldn't have select a better example of your dishonesty myself.
It is little wonder that people lose their patience with your obsessive dishonesty and start to call you names
The pair of you were tottally hammered into the ground n this question and you still refuse to budge - and you still are unable to quote a book you have read on the subject, just as you are unable to quote from a book on the Unkraine that you claim to have read
You really are something else!!
Jim Carroll