the difference is that those named artists had nearly twenty years when the folk movement was on the front foot. loads of folk clubs, folksongs in the record charts - the scene was burgeoning.

after the traddies had done their revisionist work. the folk world has been shrinking. i put it to Carthy one time, there was a civil war and you lot won. he agreed.

i've been a jobbing musician. so was robert johnson, so was broonzy - so was Josh White.