I quite agree, Bill D. And I speak as both a gun owner and a (target) shooter. I have never had objection to rational gun laws, or any other type of well-considered law. But to harp upon a subject which is based upon media representation and the resultant personal opinions, for the US or any other country, is beyond a waste of time. It is as if I based my opinions of the UK on the actions of those men who broke into a house in Romford wielding crowbars and a shotgun.