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Thread #151520   Message #3728814
Posted By: Jim Carroll
07-Aug-15 - 03:38 PM
Thread Name: Folklore/History: Irish Famine
Subject: RE: Folklore/History: Irish Famine
"I quoted her stating that revisionism is as strong as ever,"
She's a novelist
"The first disagreeing historian was dismissed by you as a "Holocaust denier"
Nothing to do with my stating there was only one view of history
""undisputed facts."
The facts I have asked you to respond to are undisputed - even by your historians - if they are - show me where they have been disputed
You won't even dispute them
One more time
Didn't Trevelyan make his statements (about both the Irish and the Scots?
Wasn't he the British appointed as advisor on the Famine?
Didn't the Government lock full warehouses and put armed guards on them?
Didn't the Russell's Tory Government dismantle all the relief measures put into place by Peel's administration
Didn't they adopt a laisse faire policy of selling famine relief to impoverished Irish peasants at market prices?
Wasn't the suggestion made by Trevelyan that the Famine was a possible solution to the Irish Question?
Weren't the Irish people given the alternatives, emigrate or starve?
Is it not true that In the worst year of the famine, 'Black '47, boats loaded with relief travelled to and fro between Britain and Ireland without being unloaded in order to push up market priced caused by delaying the supplies?"
When was the first time you did that Jim?
Please don't be stupid Keith - how on earth can I have argued that your claims of a majority view was wrong if |I did not accept there were two.
I have pointed out that there is revisionism as described by Kineally and the view now held by the majority of people working on the Famine in Ireland = two views.
At no time have I argued there are one - and you ***** know it - otherwise you would not have bothered claiming that yours was the majority.
I went to great lengths to show how Kineally's statement about there being a revisionsist majority had been turned on its head in 1995 = two versions
I have even gone to graet lengths to explain the difference between the two when you totally misunderstood the meaning of Revisionism - I make that at least three years ago.
Why do you insist on humiliating yourself with stupid lies? - I have never expressed a view, that there is only one
Stop fucking lying - it makes you look more pathetivc than you already do
Jim Carroll
Jim Carroll