That's the problem with democracy. Not that there is any viable alternative.

Every person who votes is an ideologue. We all have our own "if I were in charge" ideas, and most of us accept that as much as we crave them for either ourselves or some weird notion that others would wish them too, politicians have to work for all.

DMcG above pointed out that when David Milliband spoke of the 60 million that he was forgetting the few out of that number who might want Corbyn's take on the world.

If anyone hasn't noticed, there is no difference between a government that patronises its supporters and a government that patronises its supporters.

Red or blue.

Just because you associate with one, doesn't make it better than the other. It just patronises you and eases the pain whilst it shafts you as eagerly and with as much lust as the other lot.

Government is for all. The present government don't seem to appreciate this, which is why they are a bad government. Replacing it with another bad government solves fuck all. Ideology is a bit like religious faith. Use it as a moral compass by all means but don't throw it in the face of rational people or try to impose the letter of it.

On balance? If Alan Johnson isn't ever going to lead them, the wilderness awaits and they are letting down 60 million people by their trek, made harder by the fucking great chips they must carry on their shoulder.