Dave,I am trying to be polite.
your behaviour on this thread along with others, is childish and resembles the worst aspects of the school playground.
I have met both you and Keith in real life, and enjoyed the company of both of you, we all enjoy the same sort of music, this squabbling is pointless, neither of you are going to change the others opinions , you are wasting your time, soon we will all be dead, make the most of life.