you two totally miss the point

we weren't talking about race when i got called a racist.

this thread isn't about gay relationships - but here's Ake being called a homophobe.

he holds the views he holds - which aren't unusual views for men of his age , who grew up in an illiberal era when homosexuality was illegal. an era when children were encouraged to look upon being gay with deep revulsion. you're asking him to re-program a brain - which given the strictures of the Scottish church would be next to impossible.

his views get dragged in an abusive manner into virtually every discussion on the forum.

you're not doing the same to me without a struggle.