Almost 100% in agreement with your 05:46 AM post, Steve. I could even give a biblical quote to back you up: "Not even Solomon in all his glory was arraigned like one of these", you know! The only real difference is you find religion gets in the way of such contemplation, while those religiously inclined find the approaches accumulative, not oppositional.

And Stu: I stand corrected. I should have said Dawkins is capable of much better.