Quite so, Joe. And to some extent that answers your point I don't hear your protests. It's all very well quietly demurring, Joe, but quietly demurring tends to get nobody anywhere, though I stress this is my view which Joe may or may not agree with.

The protests you are seeking are essentially when one party says 'I am right and the rest of you must get in line with me'. Which is, when put that way a pretty grandstanding and authoritarian approach. And the church has many centuries of experience of the problems of insisting on uniformity which has encompassed everything from expulsion to war, to schisms and the Magdalene laundries. So many members do their best to bring about changes in a quieter way, working at a local level - because whatever you may see in terms of a hierarchy, it is at the local level the effects arise. And that means recognising everyone in the pew with you has views that are likely to be slightly or even substantially different from you, but you seek to find ways to work together. Having blazing rows with the guy at the end who you think is antediluvian is not really a very productive route way forward.