I'm not talking about government Joe, I'm talking about the stance of the


   Church.   Government laws come and go according to fashion or political expediency.

The Church defends moral values as the Church sees them.but it's up to individuals to live up to those standards and not the duty of the state to force people to follow moral standards.

"but it's up to individuals to live up to those standards and not the duty of the state to force people to follow moral standards."

Perhaps that should have read "immoral standards"