i think the wat you express yourself Ake, polarises opinion.

no one wants the low wage economy except the tories - so they may cccasionally flash their knickers at the ant-immigration lobby (as Thatcher famously did to get the NF vote). but really the more immigrants and the lowlier the status of the working men suits them down to the ground.

the fight is not about conservatism and liberalism.   or even really about immigration.

its about running this country on a sustainable and business like basis.

we have lived through an age of galloping pragmatism, and the old horse ain't what it was.