I have never said that belief in God is either shameful (it isn't) or crazy (ditto). My view is that it is a delusion because there is no evidence for it and it breaks all the laws of nature. I've always been careful to add that you can be perfectly rational in all other aspects of your life yet still harbour a delusion. I still support Liverpool. I rest my case. It would be good if akenaton would desist from the same kind of slanderous behaviour that he so frequently accuses others of.